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May 17, 2005

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Janis

Thank you, ricky, for exposing the hypocrisy and expressing the outrage so well. This Newsweek thing makes me want to scream! I tried explaining its significance to my husband and some friends - you bring it all home so well, I should just send them here to BoB.

cookie

Wow, that was great Ricky! After reading that, I feel post-orgasmic. I don't even smoke, and I feel like I need a cigarette. Thanks!

Margaret

I guess the standards must be way different for Bush and his crowd than for everyone else. The hypocrisy of it makes me want to scream.

Roxanne

Longest. Post. Ever.

And a good one, too.

ricky

Actually, I had to cut it short. The pirogues were done.

Even furious liberals have to eat.

lex icon

The silliest part of this story is that the world of Islam seemed more annoyed at the Koran being flushed than at the prisoners being abused, especially since the story is so absurd to begin with. I mean, have you ever tried to flush a book down the toilet? Trust me, it doesn't go down as easy as a bag of coke.

mary

Ewww pirogues, yuk. Must have gotten a bad batch. Anyway - excellent, as usual. The Bush crowd makes me feel like I've eaten a bad batch of pirogues. New term I read today BSS disease (Bush Stress Syndrome). I think I've got it.

trueleigh

Have you ever been in an in argument with someone who is overly defensive? (In this case Bush and his party of imbeciles.) Telltale sign of a liar. And we all know Bush never read the Telltale Heart because it didn't have any pictures. Bushliar keeps talking about Newsweek because he's desperate.

Jerry

Have to disagree. That Newsweek might have been wrong about the Koran thing proves it never happened, and what did happen is insignificant. Just like the fact that the memos reported by Rather might have been forged proves that the Yellow Rose served nobaly and courageously and Kerry was a cowardly, murderous swine.

anan

I just wanted to mention a couple of things; not being a US citizen perhaps i'm being untoward by saying that the only sure thing i can see in this situation is that Bush and co. is trying to curtail the freedom of the press. If i lived in the US, that would be an important flare to my sense of personal liberty, if the Patriot Act and national id card etc. hadn't already sent off the alarm.

I wonder if i can comment on some of this content. In Islam, we have a story of a famous scholar who was travelling in a caravan with his library. When a bandit stopped him, he protested that his library should not be taken, as it was the sum of years of study. The bandit laughed and said, 'What kind of knowledge do you have, if it can be taken?'

Qur'ans have been destroyed before, and for just about the same reasons. That is why there are millions of people who strive to be hafiz, or people who can recite the entire Qur'an from memory. Allah has Promised us that He will Preserve the Qur'an intact until the end of time. So far, this has proven to be true. There is one of the original Qur'ans in Topkapi Museum, Turkey, which is the same as the one on my shelf, without a jot or tittle changed.

However, Muslims do not consider the Qur'an to be just a book, even if it is a divine revelation. We see it as a living being; a friend, who will defend us on the Day of Judgement. This incident you refer to would be something akin to Christians watching soldiers dismember an angel messily and flushing it down a toilet piece by piece. Thus the protest.

As for the terrible photographs you have posted here; they really make my heart ache. Those are my brothers and sisters being chopped up over there, and for what reason? Everyone is grieving, but even praying for them (qunut) has been deemed illegal by the US administration. What can we do?

One thing all Muslims know is that whatever tribulation we suffer is either a reward for us in the hereafter, or an expiation of our sins. We have been urged to be patient, and to show kindness to all peoples. This has led to a deadly sort of quietism in the face of what can only be called persecution.

Thank you for your post, and sorry for the long comment.

ricky

Anan, no need to apologize for the long comment--look how damn long the post was!

And it's always great to hear from people of other, foreign cultures. And, by that, of course, I mean, Canadians.

I enjoyed reading your thoughts on your religion, as it pertains to these ugly, appalling events.

I find it bizarre that as America, as we're constantly being told by the "liberal" media, is undergoing some new Great Awakening, some new revival of "religion", we Americans have such utter contempt and suspicion for some of the most devoutly religious people on the planet--the Muslims.

We, Americans, are constantly being told by our "liberal" media and our government that secular humanists, like myself, are waging a veritable war against "people of faith".

And yet these same people, like Bill Frist, who are so concerned about the welfare of "people of faith", are not even remotely bothered by American soldiers or American citizens or high profile Republican pundits heaping scorn and contempt, and humiliating people of the Muslim faith.

Who are also "people of faith".

To me, a person of not much faith at all, it all just looks like the Klan riding again. Except instead of keeping the darkies down, through violence and intimidation, they're keeping the camel jockies down.

Instead of making South Carolina safe for White Women, they're making the world safe for White Women.

Where is the outrage from the "religious" right at the assault on these people of faith???

Nowhere. Of course.

These clowns, like Frist, and Dobson, and whoever else, they talk about religion and faith, and the Bible, and blah, blah, blah.

But they're just bigots. They're just good ol' fashioned racists. When they say "people of faith", what they mean is "people like me".

Faith or religion's got nuthin' to do with it. They couldn't give a rat's ass about religion, or God, or faith.

Those pictures, of swarthy foreign Muslims being beaten and humiliated--can you imagine if those were of white Christian men? Can you imagine the howling outrage we'd hear from the right wing in this country if we saw, say, Syrians lumping a bunch of pale white Christian women on the floor like that?

We're not seeing a religious revival in America. We're seeing the mainstreaming of racism.

And why not? The modern Republican party, under Rove, has expressed it's admiration for, and it's desire to return to, McKinley's America.

Well, that's it, isn't it? Where a white Christian male can finally, once again, beat a nigger, a chink, or some camel jockey and not have to pretend to feel bad about it?

Thank Jesus, we've got a man of God in the White House! Thank God we've got people of "faith" in the People's House of Representatives!

Thank God we're gonna have people of "faith" in the Courts!

Wow! What a country this is going to be.

Dumb, mean, racist, and violent. Jesus will be so proud.

Ellen

Sad, but true Ricky, and so well said, once again.

chasmyn

This is my first time to your blog, and the first post I've read. All I can say is after reading it, you are my new hero. Way to express the outrage. Well-said.

Michelle

Incredible post. I somehow continue to be amazed at the nerve of these people. Don't know why though.

Janis

I was listening to BBC World News this morning and couldn't believe how much they were toeing the Bush administration line on this story. It looks like Newsweek has learned a harsh lesson:

What happens in Gitmo, stays in Gitmo.

Critter

I've been reading you for a while, and just wanted to say - fantastic blog. Well spoken outrage, with documentation. that avoids the gotcha, while nailing it home. Your piece on the GM stock was brilliant, as was this.

Kudos to common sense and logic mystified...

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